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I am creating this journal as an explanation as to why I do not allow horses or wolves to be added to my premade backgrounds and do not allow my wings to be attatched to them without my prior permission.

Let me begin by saying that I have absolutely nothing against horses or wolves, both are beautiful, amazing animals, nor do I have anything against the amazing deviants that create horse and/or wolf art.

I really don't know exactly how to put this together...

To make my rules regarding this concern as simple as possible I have stated on each premade background and wing stock that I do not allow horse or wolf manipulations without prior permission, unfortunately, the statement is rarely read, if anyone has any suggestions as to how to make it more visable, please feel free to make them.

Why don't you allow your stock on horse and wolf sites?



:bulletblue: I don't want the stock use requests that will come with my stock being there.
:bulleblue: Why? For some reason, my rules are rarely followed by those making the requests.


Why do I require permission or disallow completely?



Because I want to make sure that you intend to create an actual photomanipulation and not a horse or wolf on a premade and because I have seen my stock many times go stolen: aka unnotified and uncredited.


with regard to...

Premade Backgrounds



:bulletblue: To begin: A horse dropped onto a premade background is not a photomanipulation; It is a cut/paste project.

:bulletblue: It makes me so very sad to see this happening.

:bulletblue: Please make an effort if you want to use premade backgrounds, use photo filters and refine your cuting skill and try new things.

:bulletblue: It makes me especially sad to see pre-cut horses dropped onto premade backgrounds, and even more so when the colors of the two images don't match at all.

:bulletblue: Also, particularly a horse on a beach has no originality; but at least think about putting a shadow on the image.

:bulletblue: If you truly want to use one of my premade backgrounds and I've declined permission, you're more than welcome to re-create the background using the same stocks that I used.

Wings



:bulletblue: The same applies for my wings, I very much dislike seeing them carelessly dropped on a horse or wolf without any apparent effort to make them appear that they belong there.

To aid in expressing the type of image that I don't want to see, I've created this one...

(The above image is created with one of my own premade backgrounds, my own horse image, and my own wings)
Edge of Desolation - Stock by Thy-Darkest-HourSpread White Wings PNG by Thy-Darkest-HourHorse Stock 06 by Thy-Darkest-Hour
Keep in mind, this is an example of what not to do.
I want to state that it took me approximately nine minutes to create this image in just a few steps, which included cutting out the horse.

Lets critique it!



1. The horse is well cut, not great, but okay, it took a whole 7 minutes.
2. The horse, though white, doesn't really match the same levels as the background.
3. The horse isn't casting a shadow.
4. There is sand over the hooves in an attempt to put the animal in the sand.
5. The wings look dropped on.
6. The horse looks dropped on.
7. He looks like he's eating sand.

How could I improve it?



1. I could photo filter the horse with a blue/gray filter.
2. I could adjust the levels for the horse.
3. I could blur out a small section of the bottom of the hooves to make it better fit on the sand.
4. I could add a shadow for the horse and wings in total.
5. I could apply an over-color layer for an overall color cohesiveness effect.
6. I could add a little grass to make it look like he's not eating sand.
7. I could draw some extra mane and tail hair.
8. I could adjust the size, size, color, and perspective of the wings and use the clone brush where they attatch.

My advice...



:bulletblue: Try new things, go out of your way to try things like color photo filters, the different types of eraser tools, different brushes, add additional elements if using premade backgrounds, and practice, practice, practice.

:bulletblue: And if you have any questions or want any personal advice concerning photoshop techniques, please feel free to ask me, but I don't know a darn thing about gimp.

Why don't you allow your stock on horse and wolf sites?



:bulletblue: Because once it shows up there along with the link that I require on the image I tend to get one of two things happening...
a. A lot of requests to use a particular stock for cut/paste projects.
b. A lot of usage wherein my permission isn't requested.
c. Unauthorized usage/theft.

How do I decide to give or decline permission to use a premade or wing stock?



:bulletblue: I will visit your gallery and look at your recent and past manipulations to base my decision on quality, don't assume I will grant permision only because you asked.

:bulletgreen: If you have manipulations that really look to me like effort has been put into them...
:bulletgreen: If your manipulations look like cohesive images...
...Then I will be glad to give permission.

:bulletred: If you have manipulations that look like a  horse has been dropped onto a background...
ex. bright brown & white horse on a bright blue background...
:bulletred: If your manipulations are badly cut out...
:bulletred: If it appears to me that little effort has been given to the images...
...Then I will have to decline your request.

:bulletblue: I have no bias against anyone, I don't intend to offend anyone when I decline a request.

Asking for deviations to be removed



:bulletblue: If you don't ask first to use my premade or wing stock for a horse or wolf manip I will ask that you remove it.

:bulletblue: If you don't wait on me to give my permission prior to uploading a horse or wolf image containing my premade or wing stock, I will ask that you remove it.

:bulletblue: If you don't tell me that you've used my premade or wing stock on a horse or wolf, most likely, I will find out.
I recognize my own stock easily, so think carefully about failing to notify me and thinking you'll get away with using my image without permission.

Hint: If you don't ask or notify and I find out, I won't care if the image is good or bad quality.

:bulletblue: If I have asked you to remove your deviation because you failed to request my permission, I feel no sympathy for you, it is through no fault of mine that you failed to read a basic rule that is in bold type beneath the deviation. Neither anger nor empathy for your hours of work will move me.


I know this isn't the most eloquently put, but please bear with me.


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z0mdee Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hm! Interesting, just finished reading. Will keep these in mind. 
I mean I don't plan on using the stock images I'm favoriting any time soon, and might not even use them at all. But if I do I have them favorited, and I always look over the rules before I use them (which is why I favorite them so I can keep track of whose rules go to which image).
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Sheishido Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was always curious as to why you had that rule with horses and wolves. I completely agree with your rules and reasons. To be honest, one my of biggest peeves on here is seeing that. My husband gets so annoyed with my rantings on this side of the computer when I come across a horse dropped on a background...then to see no credits given for the horse or the background is even worse when both are familiar to you. Its so insulting.
Cheers to you for trying to stop the madness. :clap:
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Thy-Darkest-Hour Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:glomp: Thank you very much for your support. Despite my rules, I still try to be very reasonable with just usually asking that folks use at least 3-4 stocks in an image :D
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Sheishido Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I love that you stipulate that. It should take at least that amount of images to consider a piece of work a "photomanipulation." Three is my minimum and it's only on "portrait" type works I do that have the least amount of stock used...which I try to make up with by painting.

Keep the faith and best of luck, hon ♥ :hug:
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Thy-Darkest-Hour Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you :floating: You also.
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Sheishido Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Oh and thanks for posting those tips. It never occurred to me to try to use the clone stamp to make wings look "attached" (whether human or animal lol) I feel like I had the longest brain fart in my life. When I read that part I was in facepalm mode. lol. Clone stamp...so simple...and yet I never thought to try. *smh* XD
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mammothbay Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
Hi there! I was looking through your wings and premades, and I'd really like to possibly use one or two for a manip for Howrse, and I've been reading this, and I completely agree. I haven't decided which wings or premade I'd like to use, so I decided to ask here. It would be awesome if you could check out some of my work and let me know if you'd be okay with me using them. Thanks!
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Thy-Darkest-Hour Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hello, I'm glad you've enjoyed my wings and premades.

You may use either for images on deviantart (no rpg type sites) if you use a minimum of 4 stocks in the deviation and add 'used with permission' next to the credit link.

Thank you for inquiring.
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mammothbay Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013
Great! Thanks so much, I won't use it on Howrse then, but I will probably use some just for manipulations on here. I will make sure to say that next to the credit link. Thanks again!
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Thy-Darkest-Hour Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You're welcome :floating:
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